Bayes Blast 32 – Canadian Health Care The Bayesian Conspiracy 0:00 / 0:05:230:00 VolumeDOWNLOAD << 15s15s >>Playback speed1.0x1.25x1.5x1.75x2.0x2.25x2.5x2.75x3.0x3.25x3.5x3.75x4.0x ▶ Watch video Return to audioOpen on YouTube ↗ Notes+Link> Bayes Blast 32 – Canadian Health Care Download ↓CommentJump× Close A surprising update for two previously maple-pilled Yanks 4 comments Just a point on this, as someone who has been living in Canada for a long time: Successive conservative governments have been systematically defunding and impeding the healthcare system for decades, especially at the provincial level. The consensus is that they want to make it bad so that they can justify privatizing it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1f53o0l/anyone_else_think_we_need_a_broadbased/ In Quebec, where the conservatives have had few chances for governing, the system tends to be a bit more efficient. There are serious problems with the healthcare system across the country, but its complicated. I think this is true of pretty much every country, except for those ultra wealthy small states like Singapore or Luxemburg, but those places arent exactly the most useful model for large countries like Canada or the US. Reply Thanks, I though I’d heard something like this. Often seems to be capitalist greedy interests puppeting the politicians to try and destroy public commons for profit, trying to defund services do much to point and say the thing is useless and private sector can do it better, repeated obvious crap. Looks like you posted promptly, so it is a disservice to the audience that I’m listening to this days later, and it has not been updated to not be very misleading with only half the story, on a country so large, with very regional situations. (At least I can directly ask my Canadian friend network about BC and Alberta areas, so getting not so dystopian, and less capitalist f-ed up reality in some of those area cities). Reply We’ll read feedback about this blast in our next episode, but I want to point out that this doesn’t make me (Eneasz) feel any better about entrusting my healthcare to the govt. Reply Never trust a government that isn’t beholden to its public. Its not as bad as the US, since we have more than 2 parties, but too many seats are too safe in Canada. It’s complicated, but that is part of why things are getting worse. I’m not sure anyone is trustworthy with the health of the public. Health is a non-transferable good. And every one of us will need healthcare eventually, unless we die from a random accident. That’s a set up for a captive market, and businesses have a very poor track record there. Charities don’t seem much better, as they are even more under resources than governments or companies and tend to attract the ideologically motivated. See mother Teresa. What else might be tried? Maybe a social cooperative model? I’m not aware of that having been tried, but it might have the right incentives to promote long-term health. Such coops could also be in a market competing with each other. This sounds like a good rationalist project: create an inventory of the various components of a healthcare system, note all the potential stockholders involved, and try to design an arrangement of all that which produces optimal outcomes. Bonus points of it promotes anti-aging research as a consequence Reply Join the conversation Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment * Name * Email * Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Just a point on this, as someone who has been living in Canada for a long time: Successive conservative governments have been systematically defunding and impeding the healthcare system for decades, especially at the provincial level. The consensus is that they want to make it bad so that they can justify privatizing it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1f53o0l/anyone_else_think_we_need_a_broadbased/ In Quebec, where the conservatives have had few chances for governing, the system tends to be a bit more efficient. There are serious problems with the healthcare system across the country, but its complicated. I think this is true of pretty much every country, except for those ultra wealthy small states like Singapore or Luxemburg, but those places arent exactly the most useful model for large countries like Canada or the US. Reply
Thanks, I though I’d heard something like this. Often seems to be capitalist greedy interests puppeting the politicians to try and destroy public commons for profit, trying to defund services do much to point and say the thing is useless and private sector can do it better, repeated obvious crap. Looks like you posted promptly, so it is a disservice to the audience that I’m listening to this days later, and it has not been updated to not be very misleading with only half the story, on a country so large, with very regional situations. (At least I can directly ask my Canadian friend network about BC and Alberta areas, so getting not so dystopian, and less capitalist f-ed up reality in some of those area cities). Reply
We’ll read feedback about this blast in our next episode, but I want to point out that this doesn’t make me (Eneasz) feel any better about entrusting my healthcare to the govt. Reply
Never trust a government that isn’t beholden to its public. Its not as bad as the US, since we have more than 2 parties, but too many seats are too safe in Canada. It’s complicated, but that is part of why things are getting worse. I’m not sure anyone is trustworthy with the health of the public. Health is a non-transferable good. And every one of us will need healthcare eventually, unless we die from a random accident. That’s a set up for a captive market, and businesses have a very poor track record there. Charities don’t seem much better, as they are even more under resources than governments or companies and tend to attract the ideologically motivated. See mother Teresa. What else might be tried? Maybe a social cooperative model? I’m not aware of that having been tried, but it might have the right incentives to promote long-term health. Such coops could also be in a market competing with each other. This sounds like a good rationalist project: create an inventory of the various components of a healthcare system, note all the potential stockholders involved, and try to design an arrangement of all that which produces optimal outcomes. Bonus points of it promotes anti-aging research as a consequence Reply
