253 – The Seven Vicious Vices of Rationalists The Bayesian Conspiracy 0:00 / 1:43:490:00 VolumeDOWNLOAD << 15s15s >>Playback speed1.0x1.25x1.5x1.75x2.0x2.25x2.5x2.75x3.0x3.25x3.5x3.75x4.0x Notes+Link> 253 – The Seven Vicious Vices of Rationalists Download ↓CommentJump× Close Discussing Ben Pace’s recent post on the Rationalist Vices. LINKS The Seven Vicious Vices of Rationalists (includes AI audio version) Lightcone Fundraiser! 2025 LessWrong Census/Survey Simone & Malcom Collins vs Reporter on whether genes exist MIRI is hiring Slime Mold Time Mold’s long-delayed Lithium response If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies Dear Grom by Eneasz Paid Bonus content for the week – Preshow chatter (audio, video), Full Show Video 00:00:05 – Announcements 00:23:05 – InkHaven reflections 00:31:29 – The Seven Vices of Rationalists 01:38:36 – Guild of the Rose 01:41:05 – Thank the Supporter! Our Patreon, or if you prefer Our SubStack Hey look, we have a discord! What could possibly go wrong? We now partner with The Guild of the Rose, check them out. LessWrong Sequence Posts Discussed in this Episode: on hiatus, returning soon 2 comments Hey boys, have been listening to you two for years and love you guys immensely but you guys are still making big mistakes, especially for rationnalist. A quick google search will show you that even the highest estimations for genes that decides skin color are under 500 where as for something like height more than 10 000 genes have been identified. There really isn’t any proof for race, do you really want to define a different group and call it “race” with a category such as “skin color” when the guy next to you standing 10cm taller or shorter is 100x more different than you genetically? Please start doing the maths more often,that’s a big part of being rationnal. Again, love you two immensely, hope to hear your responses if i’m mistaken in my understanding. Reply The core claim is that groups of humans that were reproductively separate for many generations are different in many ways from other groups of humans in ways that are heritable. Skin color and height are two ways in how such groups can be different, yes. Reply Join the conversation Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment * Name * Email * Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Hey boys, have been listening to you two for years and love you guys immensely but you guys are still making big mistakes, especially for rationnalist. A quick google search will show you that even the highest estimations for genes that decides skin color are under 500 where as for something like height more than 10 000 genes have been identified. There really isn’t any proof for race, do you really want to define a different group and call it “race” with a category such as “skin color” when the guy next to you standing 10cm taller or shorter is 100x more different than you genetically? Please start doing the maths more often,that’s a big part of being rationnal. Again, love you two immensely, hope to hear your responses if i’m mistaken in my understanding. Reply
The core claim is that groups of humans that were reproductively separate for many generations are different in many ways from other groups of humans in ways that are heritable. Skin color and height are two ways in how such groups can be different, yes. Reply